Dog owners irate after finding cayenne pepper dumped on neighbourhood lawns

Pet owners in Seattle are furious over the actions a property manager has taken to keep dogs off her lawn.  Cayenne pepper was intentionally dumped all over the lawn to send a message to pet owners that failure to pick up after their dogs would not be tolerated.  The problem is that the pepper , in such quantities, is quite dangerous for dogs and has resulted in at least one dog sustaining burns to the pads of her feet that required veterinary attention.

Fredda Starr is the property manager of the “Greenwood Court Manor” apartments, and she says she did not mean to hurt any animals.  “I do love dogs, but I don’t like all the poo that they leave over the ground,” said Starr, who did agree to stop and to dilute the pepper avoid harming the dogs.  In addition to spreading the pepper, Starr left the empty containers scattered around the area rather than putting them in the trash.

Pepper is not a toxic substance but can cause problems for animals who ingest or walk on it.  “It upsets the stomach, burns the inside and may cause a little diarrhea,” said Dr. Zile Singh, a veterinarian at Greenwood Animal Hospital.

Gujral Wallace, the owner of the dog that was harmed was outraged, saying “It’s absolutely despicable, their intentions is what scares me,” and asking “How does that even get into your head? Are you that evil?”  Her dog, who is named Buddha, suffered burns on her legs and incurred several hundred dollars in vet bills.   If this had happened to a smaller dog, it could have been much more serious.   Wallace says she is going to rally local residents to do a better job of keeping the area clean of pet waste.

200 thoughts on “Dog owners irate after finding cayenne pepper dumped on neighbourhood lawns”

  1. I see what the property manager was trying to do, but couldn’t she have contacted a vet to see what the appropriate deterrent would be. Poor dog. I hope she makes a full recovery. The property owner should offer to pay half the vet bills. Because the owner is at fault too.

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    • the owner is not at fault unless the grass was posted “keep off the grass”, which is not mentioned anywhere. she’s not upset about dogs being on the grass, she’s upset about the mess left behind.

      she’s punishing ALL dogs (and every other living creature – i wonder how many squirrels will be found dead?) for what a few owners do.

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      • threenoms, the signs don’t work. In fact some dog owners encourage their dog’s to go there just to piss off the property owners. Sandy, I agree with you. The property owner could have made a trip to petco and avoided this. It says right in the article that she never meant to hurt any dogs and she loves dogs. I have owned dogs for a looooooooong time. I always clean up after them. I didn’t have a poop bag once. I went home, got on, and went back and cleaned up after my dog.

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        • You are missing the point. Dog urine and poop ruin the lawn. It burns the grass and leaves yellow patches everywhere. Why should people pay to reseed and nutralize the acid in the soil from the urine because dog owners wont take their dogs to public parks or their own back yard? It’s ridiculous!

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          • The very sad message is that the neighbor who brings her dog to
            my yard to poop and pee is destroying my lawn and will not allow
            dogs to use her yard, thus, she has a perfect lawn and her neighbors
            have dead grass. It’s not the picking up that’s the problem–the dog
            urine is killing our grass.

          • Times are changing. If individuals don’t change with them, they get hurt. Yes, I am very bitter person and hate change. I see there are two problems with this story. The first one is the manager planting beautiful grass where dogs like to go. Why not pull up the grass and put something in that won’t harm animals. The other side of the problem is stupid, inconsiderate, self centered son of a ___________, not cleaning up their dog’s mess. It is true when there are these types of people roaming our streets that we will all be penalized for them. The best solution could very well be the first one I offered.

      • Do you have a posted sign on all of your home’s doors and windows?
        OR…Do you expect people to stay out and off of your property simply because…IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM.

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          • agree!
            not your yard, NYC has leash law, the renter in my neighbors house not only ignores that but he doesn’t keep his animal (4 legged one) out of my yard. there fore i feel within my rights to “help” him do so !

          • Peopke should use commkn sence. No one needs a sign that reads ” kepp off” if I leave my front door open to air the house does not mean anyone shoyld walk in.

      • So your saying I can take my dogs into your yard, poop them, and then leave and that I will be doing nothing wrong?

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    • why is the owner at fault? nowhere does it say that this particular dog and owner are responsible for leaving mess

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      • The owner is at fault because the dog can’t clean up after its self.burn the nostrils of all that come near.it serves them right.lol

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        • No, the dog is not at fault, but pepper spraying the dog owner is more complicated. Obviously, dog owners can not read; therefore, being responsible for their dogs is too much for them.

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          • Good one! I am having said problem with my neighbor and also drugs etc.. Have talked called the police nothing is stopping so next step the pepper!

        • I totally Agree !!!!!!! I have a Dog n I always carry a Poopy scouper r a plastic bag for his mess !!!!! Some people r just lazy n irresponsible n don’t give a Damn bout ur property!!!!! well use the caynne pepper I pay to keep my Lawn curb appealable so they should pay for their own vet bill s atleast their still alive !!!!!

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      • Well if this dog in question got burned nostrils then I guess it was on someone’s property where it shouldn’t have been. Probably about to leave a mess until it smelled the cayenne. Guess it won’t go back on her lawn then.

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        • Hi I found if you give your dog or cat a little bit of baking soda in their drinking water. It nutI wiill

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    • There are many ways to deter dogs from going potty on your lawn without causing any harm to them. If the property owner really did “love dogs” like she said, a simple google search would have helped her come up with a variety of deterrents that is safe for both the lawn and dogs. Hardware stores sell inexpensive decorative garden fencing that could have been placed on the border of the lawn and probably cost just as much as the many containers of cayenne pepper she used. Or citrus oil can be used or pre-made animal safe animal repellants. This just seems like a very cruel way of punishing dogs.

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      • Why should the property owner be required to buy and install fencing? The homeowner can spray whatever they like on their own lawn. If you don’t want your dog smelling cayenne pepper then keep it off other people’s property. It’s not that hard to do unless you are a completely lazy, uncaring neighbor, which is why homeowners need to resort to these measures, because of the stupid, lazy dog owners. The homeowner should care about not causing a minor inconvenience to your dog, but you aren’t responsible to care about your dog damaging others property? Oh…and when you do google remedies as I did, you will find that many links recommend “cayenne pepper” or bitter apple spray as the top 2 effective remedies! More environmentally friendly I guess then buying chemical deterrents.

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        • You know, ah August 21st, 2014 – I completely agree with you. The neighbors aren’t friendly and most attempts at finding a comfortable middle-ground with their “guard dogs” results in one or two parties becoming frightened or irritated. I find it weird that dogs stopped really taking to me about 2 years ago, but when I actually have to put myself in the line of “doody” and go over to houses for the elderly, you would think THEN that the owners of dogs would put their mutts up if they caused a problem. NOPE! Their dogs don’t growl and it’s got to be YOUR fault.

          It turns me off from wanting dogs; and I used to be an avid dog lover.

          *sigh* 🙁

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          • i put up a fence because of the PWT renter in my neighbor’s apartment, not becuase of the dog!
            the red pepper and similar “seasonings” are used because of the owners lack of control over their animal’s wanderings.
            if you own a dog, you are responcible for it’s care, safety & behaviors! just like a child (which after seeing what some of the children are like… well ’nuff said)

        • I agree. I caught someone the other day on my lawn, by the flower bed. Where 10 min earlier I had to clean up dog poop. I asked her to be a good neighbor and go across the street (which is vacant lot owned by the town) She said she was a good neighbor and lived in the neighborhood for 20 years And would walk her dog wherever she pleased, that her dog was just smelling area. I told her the problem is that is a flower bed so kindly get the dog out of it. She was annoyed and suggested I get a chair and sit on the curb and figure out who it was…. gotta love your neighbors.

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          • Omg I had a neighbor argue with me that she is shaking her bag all the while her giant size dog is trampling my flowers and sedums! Tried nicely to explain that dogs should not be trampling my plants and all I get is cursed and screamed at! And I love dogs took care of them all my life and never once when I was walking them thought it was OK to go on other peoples yards and piss and shit!

        • Agree. I have used bleach but that is expensive and smells worse. Dog owners are too stupid to recognize piles of orange and empty bottles of pepper as a sign to go away.

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        • Totally agree I have a dog and never allow him to use someone else’s garden I am demented with lazy pet owners allowing there dogs to poop all over my garden and today a cat spayed all over my plants ! A large supply of cayenne pepper will be purchased today !!!!! No home owner should be at any expense to protect their property , it would cost me £5000,00 to put a fence round met garden ! I’ve already had a quote , I’m sure the cayenne pepper will be cheaper and more effective and anyway they would only allow their dogs to pee all over the wall or fence the message is DOG OWNERS BE RESPONSIBLE OR DONT HAVE A DOG !!!!!

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      • The property owner should also not be responsible for spending tons of money for someone else’s poor dog etiquette. If someone is careless where thier dog goes it’s the dog owners carelessness that harmed their own animal. Rough as that sounds.

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      • Sir, I would like to point out to you that it should not be the responsibility of
        the person who does not own dogs to spend their money to protect their yard
        from very irresponsible pet owners, It is the pet owners who are putting their
        pets in harms way by disrespecting the property of non-pet owners. The dog
        owners have the nicest yards in the neighborhood. This is completely disrespectful! Don’t ever blame a property owner from protecting their yard
        from disrespectful pet owners.

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      • Do you know how it feels to come home and see dog crap on your lawn? Do you know how it feels to have your 4 year old step in dog crap and track it up the stairs, down the hall and all over a plush carpet? Do you know how it feels to have disgusting flies flying around the front of your house? Unfortunately, my driveway is not gated to keep the un-wanted “owned” pets to come onto my property to use the bathroom. I have a yellow sign in the middle of my lawn saying: “Pesticide Applied, Keep kids and animals of the lawn”. There’s dog crap right next to the sign. Now there’s Cheyenne pepper all over the place.

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        • These are evil neighbors who are purposely using their dogs to get back at the neighbors they don’t like. Sometimes they like you because you don’t want their dogs on your lawn

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        • I get the same crap. Every single day we get 15-20 people walking dogs. You can bank on poop left behind. I caught a man letting hid dog crap by my mailbox and start to walk away. It was dark out but I opened the window and told him to pick his crap up! It’s war now.

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    • There should be no cost for veterinary care. Capsaicin (the ingredient in peppers that causes the burning sensation) does not burn or damage the skin or internal organs in any way. Capsaicinn activates burn receptors and sends signals to the brain that a burn is occurring, but actual burning is not occurring. If dog owners are ignorant of this fact and took their dogs in to the Vet anyway, the property owner is not responsible for any costs.

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    • poor property manager .. she suffered bc lazy pet owners wouldn’t do their job. she did the right thing getting the owner attention.

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    • May be you should help the property owner by being a responsible and sensible dog owner. This like throwing your childs diaper in someone elses yard because you do not want to deal with your own crap. There are dog owners and there are RESPONSIBLE dog owners. And you are NOT the later. There are city by-laws you are not allowed to leave your dog’s poop on the city property as well. It is just plain common sense. You don’t want vet bills then KEEP YOUR DOG IN YOUR PROPERTY OR DO NOT HAVE A DOG IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH ITS POOP.

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    • I AM USING GHOST PEPPER

      IT HAS WAY. MORE BURNING POWER

      IT WILL HIT THE DOG OWNERS ALSO WHEN THEY PET THEIR DOGS

      YEAHHHHH

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    • The property manager should not pay anything. People are irresponsible when it comes to their pets. They will not pick up after them. It is a health hazard to have animal feces in the yard. Why do people act clueless to animal care and responsibility. Would you just shit in your front yard? Of course not because its toxic and leads to diseases yet when it comes to picking up animal waste dog owners act dumb and irresponsible.

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    • I wouldn’t pay jack how would you like if it was you how you know if she didnt try to resolve the problem dog oooo can destroy property value and grass.dieases contaminated water sickness illness sound like she did what she had to do

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  2. Everyone is condemning the manager and it’s the dog owners who are to blame . Im quite sure the manager had no intentions of harming the animals . To bad the pepper couldn’t have been placed in the dog owners underwear .

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    • since when are ALL dog owners reponsible for what a few of us do?

      and i have been a property manager and yes, one of the jobs was picking up “trash, litter, and other debris” which includes poop.

      i mean, ffs, it’s just poop – we’re not talking nuclear waste or rotting fish carcasses.

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      • threenoms,you wrote “what a few of us do?” I take it you are one that does not clan up after your dog. Dog poo kills grass. Rotting fish carcasses actually fertilize. Get off your high horse.

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      • You are very naive if you don’t think that those who follow the rules quite often pay for those who don’t. It isn’t fair but it happens every day in a variety of ways.

        I find it ironic that you state “since when are ALL dog owners reponsible for what a few of us do?” Yet you don’t extend that right to the property manager who ends up cleaning up after those who violate.

        By the way dog feces IS a health hazard; condensed from dog talk 101:

        1. Dog poop is NOT good fertilizer. It’s toxic to your lawn! The high nutrient concentration in dog poop will burn and discolor the grass, creating “hot spots”.

        2. The (EPA) classifies pet waste as a dangerous pollutant in the same category as toxic chemicals and oil.

        3. The (CDC) confirms pet waste can spread parasites including hookworms, ringworms, tapeworms and Salmonella.

        5. Merges with E. Coli and other harmful bacteria … (There are 23 million fecal coliform bacteria in a single gram of pet waste!)

        6. Contains roundworm larvae, which cause blindness and damage to brain, lungs, kidneys, liver, heart or eyes.

        7. Does not “wash away” or disappear.

        Clearly, there was a lapse in judgement here on all those involved. The property manager should have researched safer alternatives for discouraging dogs on the lawn and dog owners should not only be cleaning up after their dogs but they should also make ever effort to keep them from urinating on the grass as that also damages the lawn and can not be “picked up.”

        Perhaps the solution is to designate an area for dogs to relieve themselves that has only crushed granite of gravel that can be more easily kept clean and let those who use it monitor for those violating the “clean up after your pet” rule. That way, the lawn is for playing and fun and the gravel area is for clean up.

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    • You Have to Joking there are things like SIGNS that can be posted> not for sure in Seattle but at home from the curb to side walk belongs to the CITY and some times even more. IF it was my dogs She be lucky just to get Sewed as well as the property owner. because ill bet she didn’t us her money to bye the pepper witch mean the property owner is on the hook two.

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      • Only an idiot would sue someone after “his” dog trespassed into her yard and ate or sniffed something that made it have diarrhea or burned nostrils!

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      • There are righteous dog owners and irresponsible ines signed work for half, but in crowded areas also cause more focus on deliberate violation from bad dog owners.
        It’s not a complete solution.

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      • Since signs really work…Someone threw my sign into my back yard. I pepper the heck out of my yard. Lazy dog walkers.

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    • We have the same problem! People let their dogs dig up and throw gravel all over our sidewalks. We posted signs asking people to be respectful and not allow the dogs to dig in the gravel. I’m tired of sweeping the sidewalk several times a day! The signs made it worse. Any suggestions?

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        • Don’t be such an Asshole! It all comes down to respect! If someone ccontinally allowed their dog/s to crap on my lawn, there would be trouble! In that case they can jolly well keep their dogs home to crap on their own! Simple as that! People just don’t respect each other! That’s the main cause these days! I feel for that Dog, because it suffered due to its owners neglect!

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        • I just bought 3 huge containers of it!!! After talking 2 not 1 but 3 OF MY DOG OWNING NEIGHBORS NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!! THEIR DOGS CRAP ON MY SIDEWALK, MY LAWN AND MY DRIVEWAY!!! I HAVE 2 CHECK THE GROUND B4 I STEP OUT OF MY CAR!!! AND I GREW UP WITH DOGS MY WHOLE LIFE HOPE 2 BECOME A DOG OWNER SOON BUT UNDERSTAND THAT OPENING YOUR DOOR AND ALLOWING YOUR DOGS 2 RUN OUT AND RELIEVE THEMSELVES ON YOUR NIEGHBORS PROPERTY DOES NOT CONSTITUTE “WALKING YOUR DOG! “ITS RUDE AND OFFENSIVE!!! AND SINCE I HAVE 2 CLEAN IT UP I KINDLY DIVIDE AND DISPOSE OF IT ON MY 3 NEIGHBORS PROPERTY AND WILL CONTINUE 2 DO SO UNTIL THE PEPPER KICKS IN BOOM!

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          • I AM SO GLAD I FOUND THIS WEBSITE. Just stepped in some dog shit along the grass of the sidewalk and ordered a couple of pounds of cayenne stuff; cost me $38 with shipping… Any better price/place you suggest?
            I do not know who are the culprits since people come from other blocks in my cul-de-sac and some idiots let the dogs shit so I can’t take the crap to their property but I will certainly enjoy to flood those areas with cayenne pepper.

          • We should grow lots of Carolina Reaper peppers and use them hehehe!!! As evil as it is, I do not like ignorant people either.

      • It is amazing to me that people need to be told not to let their dogs deposit on other people’s property. Marked or not. Freakin idots.

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    • Seems like a logical and less abusive solution. In my area most of the nicer apartments have this. At the very least trash bins strategically located which benefits everyone in various ways.

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    • The dog owner is responsible for bringing a bag to clean up after their own dog. You can buy a whole roll of bags for a couple bucks so it is not some terrible hardship and you can even clip a bag dispenser onto the dog’s leash so you can’t forget to bring one.

      The dog owners that complain “Nobody gave me bags for free exactly where and when I needed one so I can’t possibly clean up after my own dog that crapped on someone else’s property” are just showing how rude, selfish, and irresponsible they are.

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  3. I love dogs and own dogs however I can see both sides of this. I am disgusted with rude pet owners who do not clean up after their dog. I wonder if the man who was so incensed is one of the regulars who never picks up his dog’s waste? More likely than not the answer is YES.

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  4. I’ve seen people walking their dogs and letting them defecate and just walking on. Some people just don’t care whose property they soil. Once saw a woman running and her dog was trying to defecate and she just keep dragging it so that poo was spread all along the sidewalk. I stopped her and offered her a bag to clean it up and she was very nasty to me. She had no regard for anyone who may be walking along the sidewalk and obviously didn’t deserve to have a dog.
    It is the few people who are like that who ruin it for everyone. Signs don’t work and in fact some people will try and make their dogs go where there are signs just to say ‘screw you’. Anyone with the type of attitude that their actions are immune to rules and regulations really isn’t civilized.
    I hope a resolution can be found here. Maybe a few tickets for not cleaning up after their dogs might convince people.

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  5. I am not advocating animal cruelty but I was told that Cayenne Pepper will keep dogs from digging in my flower beds and I have sprinkled it in my flower garden in the past, I “sprinkled” not dumped! The fact that she dumped it and left the containers should have been enough of a warning and could be why she did it like this. Then again maybe she’s just a litterbug who hates dogs, who knows!

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  6. Simple solution: – signs dont work? I bet if she put up signs that said “if your dog poops here – there will be cayenne pepper next time.”

    That might solve everyone’s problem.

    Not agreeing with what the propert manager did but there are irresponsible dog owners out there. I see it every day in the dog park and it’s just pure ignorance.

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