Law Enforcement Today Article Advises Police not to Kill Family Dogs

Gunner was shot in the neck by an off-duty Texas officer who claimed the boxer attacked him, his wife and his dog.  Twelve-year-old Dalton Fitzhenry says Gunner was just curious and sniffing the other dog when officer Mark Condon fired at point-blank range.

Gunner was shot in the neck by an off-duty Texas officer who claimed the boxer attacked him, his wife and his dog. Twelve-year-old Dalton Fitzhenry says Gunner was just curious and sniffing the other dog when officer Mark Condon fired at point-blank range.

 

With the number of frequent shootings by police against non-aggressive family dogs, it’s about time we see something being done within the police community. Online magazine Law Enforcement Today has recently published an article warning officers not to shoot loved family dogs.

James P. Gaffney, author of the article, is an LET risk management/police administration contributor to the publication, and served with a metro-New York police department for more than 25 years as a patrol officer, sergeant, lieutenant and executive officer. He brings to light the popular opinion that dogs are not just pets, but “valued family members,” and that the preferred term is now “canine companion.”

Police are supposed to use objective reasonableness, i.e. common sense, when they are on the job. Approaching an unknown dog, or entering a dog’s territory, can incite an attack. Then police officers shoot, and cry self-defense. Well, if they thought a situation through using common sense and compassion, their deadly actions might not have been necessary. A siren or a loudspeaker could be used to alert an owner to their presence and to suggest their dog be safely secured instead of just barging onto a property and killing a dog for defending its territory and family from an intruder.

Dogs are excellent at sensing danger, and if they come across people they perceive as a threat, they might immediately become defensive and attack. As trained on the job, police can come across as menacing, something a nervous dog can certainly sense, and may act on.

Officers are trained to take whatever measures are necessary to protect themselves. Of course, officers have the expectation of self-protection from dogs that are attacking. But officers should not be employing a “shoot first, think later” mentality in cases where they enter a property clearly marked “Beware of Dog(s),” when they come across friendly runaways or when dogs are merely running toward them but not attacking.  And how many times now have we heard stories of police shooting dogs on the wrong property?  Don’t they have GPS?  

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Star was critically injured by officers when trying to protect her owner, a homeless man, who was having a seizure. After down on the ground having just been shot, another officer continued shooting the clearly injured dog.

 

It is natural for a dog to run up to a person they do not know, but it is not fair to assume they are running to attack. There is other clear body language that officers should be able to recognize, just as they are trained to recognize body language in humans. Should it become necessary to use protective measures against a dog, pepper spray could disable, and a baton could stun. But many officers just whip out their guns and shoot, not giving a moment’s thought to the fact that they are robbing a family of a beloved member just because they got scared and couldn’t hold themselves together.  And yeah, so their training requires them to fire multiple shots when shooting.  Are they so brainwashed that they are only running on instinct and autopilot (isn’t that reassuring?), and can’t use their brains to think to fire a single shot towards a leg, aiming only to injure but not kill?  Or what about firing a shot into the sky, which might be loud enough to frighten the dog off?  Why do they not retreat, letting a dog know they are not in danger?  (This seems simple enough, but clearly is challenging concept.)  And why is there such blatant disregard for anything else that might be injured?  Many bullets are through-and-through, or ricochet, leaving the possibility that others can be killed in their reckless gun shows of cowardice.

If “regular” citizens can receive up to a 20-year prison sentence for killing a police dog (many of which have viciously attacked people, unable to distinguish between ordinary citizens and “perps”), then why is there such a double standard for police officers? Why are they above the law and the people they are meant to protect and serve? It seems that more and more these days, we need protection from them.

Well, police now can be held accountable in the case of wrongful death of a dog. It is illegal for officers to seize a dog by deadly physical force unless the actions taken are deemed objectively reasonable pursuant to the Fourth Amendment. Law enforcement officers know about objective reasonableness when using force against humans (though not all of them apply it), it is new for courts to recognize that this can apply to dogs killed in the line of duty.

When courts sets precedents in their rulings, it can take a long time for police law to catch up. At a conference attended by Gaffney last month, he learned from Chicago attorney Laura Scarry that shooting a family dog could be considered a violation of the Fourth Amendment. This amendment grants US citizens the right to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, protected from unreasonable arrests and seizures. Federal courts are now recognizing a dog as an “effect.”

This precedent is the result of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling in the case of Fuller v Vines, 36 F.3d 65,68 (9th Cir. 1994), where it was ruled in favor of the defendant and enabled protection of dogs against wrongful death. The Bill of Rights has flexibility that allows for changes to be made as societal expectations change, and many in society want their dogs to be protected not only by the law, but from it.

Police dogs are considered valued members of the force, and “ordinary” dogs are considered valued members of families. It is time they are recognized as such and treated accordingly; with caution and respect, as police would expect anyone who approaches their dogs.

 

 







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    July 10, 2013 8:04 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Arnoud

    Shoot those police assholes on the street without justice, just like they have shot your dog.
    You Americans claim you can carry guns to protect your property. Then just use that same right to shoot any police bastard that has harmed your dog.

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      July 10, 2013 8:28 pmPosted 1 year ago
      frank

      you might say you will die for your dog but saying it and doing it are 2 different things. you first.

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    July 10, 2013 8:07 pmPosted 1 year ago
    JOHANNE CANTU

    Well written and lets hope it makes a change.

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      July 11, 2013 9:18 amPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Well written?……Were we reading the same article? WOW

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    July 10, 2013 8:19 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why are the police not held the the same letter of the law? I wish they would get training on how to handle dogs. What makes me worry is that my dogs are VERY protective and would bark and get get all “boxy” to a person they do not know. I know I would go after the PD along with the actual officer who fired the shot.

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    July 10, 2013 8:23 pmPosted 1 year ago
    frank

    YES I have had strange dogs run up to me and NOT bite me many times.

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      August 9, 2013 12:12 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You were probably on your period, Frank.

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    July 10, 2013 8:47 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Dog Lover

    I would never say F the police or any group. I will however say F those individual pussies who have no idea what constraint means. I saw one shooting where animal control had the dog on a pole and the dick wad shot him four times. The dog was under control. Also mind you, the dog never left it’s garage. The family left it open and someone reported it. The dog was guarding the house and never came out. I would not shed a tear for those kinds of police. If you’re that big of a pussy, get back in your car and call animal control. If however, the dog is a threat to others, I’ll miss the dog. But know. Know what the hell the dog is saying. In fantasy land, I’d shoot each one right after they shot the dog.

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      July 10, 2013 10:36 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Robin

      Yes, I saw that Video too. This happened in Colorado and that ass hole cop got charged for his stupid actions… I know if he had done that to my dog, well he would have to worry…

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      July 11, 2013 1:35 amPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Well said and I agree it is not fair to assume all police are alike and would needlessly take an animals life . In the same light they should not assume all dogs mean harm.

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    July 10, 2013 9:34 pmPosted 1 year ago
    corrina de wilde

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    July 10, 2013 9:42 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Tara

    This is wrong on soooo many levels! The policemen need to be trained for restraining and controlling dogs. There has been too many dogs killed by police for protecting their owners!!! I have a boxer and she is protective over me and by george if a cop shoots my baby, the cop better run very fast because this girl will come after him and he wont know what hit em! And then I will sue the dept!!!

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    July 10, 2013 9:44 pmPosted 1 year ago
    I Love Dogs

    Shoot the damn police officers. Bastards. If an officer shot my dog, they would be sued BIG TIME.I would sue them for every dollar they had, and more…

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    July 10, 2013 10:47 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Seriously?!

    You are exactly right, it is not the dog’s fault. It is the owner’s. As a dog owner, it is YOUR responsibility to keep YOUR dog in your yard, on YOUR leash keeping it in control. Take responsibility!! If you don’t want police officers to shoot YOUR dog in your yard or house, either don’t call them for help(do us all a favor) or lock YOUR dog in a room if an officer is at YOUR house. If a strange dog runs up to me & I have a gun, it will be shot!!

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      July 10, 2013 11:02 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Regarding Seriously?!

      Did you read the article, the owner was having a seizure, the dog was protecting his master….please read the article before passing judgement on US “owners”, and the past shooting, the animals “dogs” were on leashes or restraint and need NOT to be shot.

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        July 11, 2013 12:34 amPosted 1 year ago
        Seriously

        So it is ok for u to judge a police officer but not for me to judge dog owners? Complete hypocrisy. It does NOT matter if the dog was protecting his owner, if the dogs were on a leash(they obviously were not being kept under control). Police officers have a second to secure a situation. They don’t have time to figure out if the dog is friendly or not. It sad
        to hear that u or anyone else would put another person’s life in a dangerous position.

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          July 11, 2013 12:12 pmPosted 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So the poor man, as well as suffering from a seizure, should have made sure that he kept his dog on a leash? How many times have you been able to think about holding onto a leash while having a seizure?

          Bottom line – the cops doing this sort of thing should use that little thing between their ears called their brain and use it to show some common sense rather than being trigger happy.

          Yes, owners should be responsible for their dogs, but when a dog is restrained on private property, protecting its territory and owners then it is doing nothing wrong and neither are its owners. And in the case of the man having a seizure, what the hell was he supposed to do? Matters were out of his hands and some discretion and common sense should have been shown. But I take it that it’s okay for a cop to shoot first and ask questions later?

          There are so many other methods that could be employed rather than reaching first for a gun. Here in the UK cops don’t carry guns (a totally different subject for debate) so that don’t go around shooting dogs. On the occasions that it may be necessary to deal with a dog methods are used and done so quite effectively. Guess what? The Police here are actually trained in how to handle a situation involving a dog rather than assuming that a bullet will solve everything.

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          July 11, 2013 4:38 pmPosted 1 year ago
          Randall Tucker

          I bet your either one of those pecker head cops use to be a pecker head cop or just a dumbass cat owner. Sounds to me you’ve never known the love a dog can give to its owner so how about you keep your pecker head opinion to yourself. I own three wonderful pits that protect my home and honestly it would be hard to nor want to shoot the officers who are on my private land and just up and kill my family member. And the officer in Colorado should be castrated for his ignorance.

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        August 9, 2013 12:16 pmPosted 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Did You read the article? If it’s human vs. animal, the dog loses, period. Dogs don’t have rights.

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          December 4, 2013 9:39 pmPosted 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are obviously not very intelligent are you? Dogs, might not have most rights like we humans do, but they are still entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

          The police officer could have ran or hid behind something or climbed onto something. He didn’t have to shoot the dog to “secure the situation”. It wasn’t his right to kill that dog.

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      July 11, 2013 12:59 amPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      “If a strange dog runs up to me & I have a gun, it will be shot!!”

      Pussies like you should not have guns…

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        July 11, 2013 2:37 pmPosted 1 year ago
        vet tech

        Why- if a strange person ran up to you would he be shot?

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          July 23, 2013 12:20 pmPosted 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          DOGS are NOT people. With Pit bulls having killed EIGHTEEN kids so far this year, I can GUARANTEE you that I would shoot first and ask questions later. Good work officer!!

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        July 11, 2013 9:40 pmPosted 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        And ignorant people like you should get some common sense. You only help the problem.

        Uneducated people like you should get educated and while your doing that, (if you are capable of researching instead of just stealing people comments), try and learn something. But of course, the fact that you would just call someone a pussy, shows the lack of your vocabulary and learning capabilities. So don’t hurt yourself. And I’ll help the start of your education. FYI the felony for KILLING A POLICE DOG, is LIFE IN PRISON! Seems to me like the same law should apply us the civilians as well.

        WOOF WOOF WOOF MOTHFUCKER
        Sincerely,
        Loving dog owner of 3!!

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      July 11, 2013 1:47 amPosted 1 year ago
      Katherine

      you are so wrong,police do not have the right to shoot an “Unarmed” dog,by that I mean one that is not showing teeth and growling in defense of their owner (family) or their home.Cops need to chill and back off and wait for owner to restrain their pet.

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        July 23, 2013 12:21 pmPosted 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No, the owner needs to restrain their pet at ALL times.

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          December 4, 2013 2:46 amPosted 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          SOMEONE NEEDS TO RESTRAIN YOU, IDIOT!!!

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          December 4, 2013 9:42 pmPosted 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I agree, the owners should restrain their pets…BUT, it’s not always possible. Dogs will do what they want, no matter how restrained they are. Cops do not have the right to kill an animal that doesn’t belong to them. Hell, no one has that right.

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      July 11, 2013 6:43 amPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Seriously?????
      You are an asshole! You have a gun? That is scarey! Fool!!!

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      July 11, 2013 8:20 amPosted 1 year ago
      Tearanny

      PLEASE! As an Epileptic with a service dog, if I came to after a seizure and a cop had shot and killed my dog I would lose my mind and probably search for a gun to end my own life because my life would be IMPOSSIBLE without my service dog. You are the very WORST kind of ignorance, the DANGEROUS kind. DO NOT BREED.

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      July 11, 2013 1:28 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      While I agree that dogs should be under control, I do not agree that not being so is a reason to shoot and kill them. There are too many stories nowadays of dogs that are shot to death while calmly sitting on their porches or even in their own yards. As this article pointed out, the police aren’t always called to a particular house – in the cases of police showing up at the wrong address and shooting an innocent dog.

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      July 13, 2013 9:53 amPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you are a f*ckin pussy…

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    July 10, 2013 11:05 pmPosted 1 year ago
    NY LVT

    The police should not have to worry about whether they are going to be mauled or not. It is a dog owner’s responsibility to make sure their dog is friendly, socialized, and under control at ALL times.

    I work as a licensed veterinary technician and I have lost count of the number of times people have said “oh, don’t worry he’s friendly” right before the animal starts growling and tries to bite. Just because someone is an animal’s owner doesn’t mean they know themselves when their dog is going to be aggressive or not- some people can be clueless about their own dogs.

    Backing away from a dog that is charging you can actually incite their prey drive and make the dog MORE likely to bite- not less.

    The author describes using a “siren or loudspeaker”. How exactly is that going to help? If the police are after a suspect it will alert the suspect; in a medical situation as the one where the owner was homeless and convulsing a siren isn’t going to help. Additionally- many dogs can actually be provoked to fear aggression because of the loudspeaker or siren which is going against what you’re trying to do.

    Police are trying to do their jobs- they put their lives on the line to protect us. They get a SPLIT SECOND to make a decision of what to do.

    Shame on anyone who puts the dog before the safety of the police officer. If the dog were under the proper control as it SHOULD be the dog wouldn’t be put in a position where it needed to be shot! Blame the owner!

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      July 11, 2013 12:46 amPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      NY LVT, you remind me of a vet tech who Stupidly cornered my dog into a corner of the exam room Immediately after entering the room, grabbed her and muzzled her so the second tech could clip her nails…. without making ANY attempt to act friendly toward my dog. My dog, a service dog, has never bit anyone, was on her leash – yes even in that small exam room, and NEVER ONCE was I asked to have my dog get up on the table, or anything else. That tech simply bolted into the room with HIS agenda.

      And here you are defending a cop YOU likely don’t even know, in a situation you likely didn’t witness for shooting a dog, AND another cop firing multiple additional rounds into his already injured and downed body… all while his homeless owner seized on the ground. My aren’t you the compassionate one.

      And I’ve had experience with cops who came on medical calls to my home, on several occasions. Most of the time, my caregiver had my dog leashed and ready to exit the apartment as soon as the ambulance arrived. The cops Usually would try to play with her, getting her excited to play and barking…. yeah that works!! And then one day, on a medical call where i was unable to stop coughing and my sats were dropping and i could barely speak, my caregiver had my dog on a short leash and ready to leave, the cop arrived at my door, literally right in front of the paramedics. The medics walked past the cop through to where I was. One recognized my dog and greeted her by name. The cop, in the loudest and nastiest way possible, told my caregiver to “Put THAT DOG into the bathroom”. I didn’t want my dog in the bathroom because of chemicals, I wanted her out of the chaos that this medical call was bringing. My caregiver hesitated as she grabbed my dogs things… so she could be taken to a neighbor to watch… but that wasn’t good enough for the cop… Oh Nooo… Literally 20 seconds later he BELLOWED at my caregiver to “PUT THAT DOG IN THE BATHROOM! OR ARE YOU DEAF!! I was trying to tell the cop to simmer down but he was such a beligerant A-hole with his big ol badge on his chest!!! I feared for my dogs life, my caregivers life, and frankly wondered if he pulled his gun if he could stop before his ammo was gone. THAT’S the kind of cop that give every cop a bad rap. And you just pour oil on the fire. If I knew you personally I would be ashamed by association, just like THAT FLIPPIN cop that I encountered.

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        August 2, 2013 4:38 amPosted 1 year ago
        Nettie

        I would have told the cop to get his ass out of my house! Dickhead cops

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    July 10, 2013 11:07 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Jessie Lee

    I was once a letter carrier. I went to a veterinarian to find out what I should do for an old woman who had a cat with an infected tail. As I walked in, I was barked at loudly, by a dog sitting on the floor. I was wearing my US Postal Service uniform (after my shift). The dog went crazy. The people at the vet were shocked that the dog recognized me. It was completely blind. Dogs know their owners. I thoroughly believe that police officers are way too sensitive. Dogs should not be shot unless they charge. Dogs are dogs, they protect. Drug dealers with dogs made to be aggressive have ruined the police response to canines.
    So many pets are killed needlessly. There should be training about restraint on the officers part.

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      July 12, 2013 7:49 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Good insightful post! My son is a police officier but I totally agree with you! Educate officers when it comes to dogs! Again, good post!

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    July 11, 2013 1:19 amPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Seriously and LVT you both are a”holes!!!

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    July 11, 2013 1:21 amPosted 1 year ago
    Seriously

    So here’s the solution if u say u want to actually do something or threaten & bash the police. Volunteer your time. Why not let the police call u up to assess a situation to see if the dog is friendly or not? Then the police can do their REAL job!! Hmmmm…

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      July 11, 2013 2:29 amPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe they should just spray a bunch of crap all over America that kills all the dogs and civilians and let the authorities wear a gas mask that day…that way all those poor people who govern us since we are obviously are too stupid to do it ourselves, can be kept safe from us….

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      August 2, 2013 4:42 amPosted 1 year ago
      Nettie

      I would love to assess the situation, if would save a dog’s life from some
      trigger happy Nazi cop

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    July 11, 2013 6:25 amPosted 1 year ago
    Aub

    I dunno … two sides to every story … if a dog is running loose most likely the owner is to blame in the first place … a police officer has a right to protect himself … keep your dogs on your bed cuddled next to you where they belong and you’ll be fine.

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      July 11, 2013 9:06 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I take it you don’t have a dog. And by the way you say to, “keep your dog on your bed…and you’ll be fine”. I take it you either don’t haves home or you were put in a room your entire life.

      Well 1st off here in America, there’s this thing called houses (rich, poor, with fences, without fences, all kinds of fences. Brick, concrete, wired. You name it, theres a few). Moving on, in most houses there’s family and a dog (or more, the dog is considered FAMILY). The dogs don’t have restrictions to a corner or a bed side or even the garage. They have freedom in their home. Their job is to PROTECT THEIR HOME AND THEIR MASTER. So when a person enters the premises it’s not only normal but it’s nature and instinct for the dog to protect and be on alert. Do you know what a dog acts like?! It shows teeth, growls, smiles, barks (even has different barks for different needs, wants and alerts), they are trainable and most importantly a dog LOVES HIS FAMILY,
      respects and protects its master.So how it is ok, for an officer to shoot a dog for protecting and alerting. All dogs need is a sniff of the encounter and it will back off. It seems like cowards to me! Grown men acting like their life is a stake. A dog bit wont kill you. Police have tasers , pepper spray, and have been trained to read and observe body language. Why is deadly force ok as a first reaction. This whole “act now, think later”, bs is just and excuse and security for them to walk away with their pockets and Job not at risk.
      Point is, we live in a free country. Meaning dogs are allowed to roam their territory without being harassed, abused and apparently the popular thing now being shot and killed for simply protecting.
      And no, there are not two sides. Cops are crooks, un trust worthy, and only protect one another. They are people with no morals and obviously people that don’t question what they are being told to do. And that is a problem!!!!!

      WOOF WOOF WOOF MOTHERFUCKER!!!!
      Sincerely,
      A log owner of 3!!!

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        July 23, 2013 12:24 pmPosted 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Just because YOU love your damned dogs doesn’t mean the rest of us do. I live way out in the country because I can’t live around people and their FN dogs.. but if somebody’s dog comes around my farm causing any kind of trouble, I will shoot it.

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          August 5, 2013 12:19 pmPosted 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Anonymous, you probably live way out in the country because other humans dont want to live around you and your ignorant ways!!

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          December 4, 2013 3:04 amPosted 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          YOU HAVE A GUN? GOD SAVE US FROM YOUR STUPID PEOPLE, PLEEEEASE.

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    July 11, 2013 6:47 amPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I know the police have a difficult job to do, but why dident he phone animal control I think it was shoot 1st then think r i p poor dog

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    July 11, 2013 7:39 amPosted 1 year ago
    Tom Warren

    From another site: “It’s actually an intimidation tactic, and the shooting of dogs … is not by accident, nor on impulse or instinctive reaction.”

    However, MY reaction would be impulsive and instinctive, and aimed at stopping the arrogant cop who is only concerned with maintaining the intimidation. There is NEVER a time when a split-second decision about shooting a dog is called for.

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      July 23, 2013 12:27 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      “There’s never a time when shooting a dog is called for” huh? How about when they are tearing s little kid or and old person to pieces which they have done EIGHTEEN times so far this year. I can guarantee you that I will shoot the POS without a second thought.

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        September 24, 2013 6:59 pmPosted 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Do you not realize how little the number 18 is in the time of a year? More deaths from shark attacks and lightning strikes happen in a year and even that is very uncommon.. Those 18 dogs probably attacked because they were also threatened. Way more innocent dogs, and animals in general, have been killed by humans than vise versa. I dont see why humans should think they are more important than dogs, we are all living beings and deserve equal rights. I especially dont understand why you would think that YOU are more important, considering how you obviously dont think as much as someone should. There is ALWAYS reason to think before ending a life.

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    July 11, 2013 8:23 amPosted 1 year ago
    D

    It’s an outrage. These cops are just power hungry and I’m guessing do not own dogs!!! They should lose gun privileges when something this disgusting happens. SCUMBAGS!!!

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    July 11, 2013 8:30 amPosted 1 year ago
    Seriously

    Whiners 2, Doers 0. Gripe & complain but don’t do anything to solve the problem.
    I’m signing out, so judge others & forget about the plank in your own eye.

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      July 11, 2013 1:44 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You are a dick

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      July 12, 2013 7:45 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What would your “do something” advice be? Just curious.

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    July 11, 2013 9:06 amPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Amen to all of this!! I too see that it’s becoming increasingly apparent that we need to fear the people that are sworn to protect us!!! Police officers more and more are acting more like unthinking robots that, as the article says, are operating on auto pilot rather than living , breathing, feeling HUMANS!!!

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    July 11, 2013 11:09 amPosted 1 year ago
    Andrew

    Is there an update on the dog and how its doing??

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    July 11, 2013 12:42 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I have four dogs, they all have their shots and are licensed plus they are fixed. I have a big yard that is fenced all the way around with a privacy fence. I also have beware of dog signs on every door and on the fence. My dogs stay in unless they need to use the bathroom. I was sitting there watching TV with my dogs by my side, they where asleep, when I got a loud bang on the door, I went to the door and it was the police with an arrest warrant for someone that I had never heard of before. I explained that to the cops, but they did not believe me and wanted to search my home. I said that is fine I have nothing to hide, just let me put my dogs up, one of the cops said that if I went back into the house I would be arrested, I was crying at this point trying to get them to understand I did not know this person. I was finally given permission to put them outside, after a very intense time. They checked the house and the person they where looking for was not there, they demended to know where they were, again I told them I did not know this person, I even showed my ID. They noticed I had a garage and the same cop who said I could not put my dogs outside because he did not want me back in the house, said oh that’s why you put your dogs outside that is where he is hiding. He pulled his gun out and said I will just shoot them to get to the garage. Finally before all that happened one of them that was outside noticed the address and came in saying what is the address on the warrant, it was the WRONG address. I never got an apology are anything. So in this what exactly did I do wrong. My dogs where in my home minding their own business I had signs up saying beware of dogs, and of course they got all worked up over the everything going on when they sensed I was upset. I know police have hard jobs, I understand this, but I little compassion would be great.

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      July 11, 2013 5:39 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Wow…way to have your constitutional rights trampled on. Please educate yourself regarding such incidents. I have nothing to hide either but I am damned if I would have let any of these guys enter my home without proper documentation, i.e. search warrant signed by a judge.

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    July 11, 2013 12:53 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Too bad the police don’t shoot and ask question later when they encounter murders, rapists, pedifiles, robbers, etc….

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      July 23, 2013 12:33 pmPosted 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Dogs are murderers. Every year an average of 30 people get mauled to DEATH by a dog. Almost 80% of those deaths are from pit bulls. Often it is the owner that gets killed, which is fine by me but all too often it is an innocent neighbor which is NOT okay. Dogs can be dangerous. It’s simple, if you don’t want your dog to get shot or ran over, KEEP IT ON YOUR PROPERTY!

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    July 11, 2013 2:57 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Or crooked cops…

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    July 11, 2013 3:13 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Double Standard

    “Let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone”
    1/2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFNFvOyTJd8
    2/2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebJeUiPIwMw

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    July 11, 2013 5:09 pmPosted 1 year ago
    S ervin

    How bout you start shooting those ass wipes that abuse dogs

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    July 11, 2013 11:27 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Furkid Mom

    Thank you Life With Dogs for printing this article that I referenced earlier. The bottom line is that dog owners are legally in the right on this issue. We can expect that our animals will be treated decently and not simply shot because some trigger happy cowboy cop wants to play with his gun. And if that horrible event happens we have the right to demand justice.

    Again with these incidences. SUE the individuals, the department, the city. OUT the officers involved. If you have a video put it on the net let everybody see and then SHAME them. Dont be afraid to speak out. You have a community of people who care for their animals behind you.

    I think the person who calls itself Anonymous is a troll who just wants to cause dissension and discontent. It has never said one thing pro animal so I would pay no attention to it.

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    July 12, 2013 12:04 amPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    this is the same way they are starting to do humans…police dont believe innocent until proven guilty you are guilty time the stop you or arrest you.

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    July 12, 2013 12:35 amPosted 1 year ago
    A dog lovers from Indonesia

    Another asshole with uniform…yeahh you officer, the one who shoot the dog… F bastards!!!

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    July 12, 2013 8:30 amPosted 1 year ago
    Brandon

    Shoot back. Boom! That’s it. Once cops start getting shot they will stop.

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    July 12, 2013 3:22 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I cant tell you enough that maybe we should just shoot the cop and then state that it was selfdefense as well. I mean even when it is shown that they were never touched or whatever, they still seem to think that they are just given every ounce of power to do as they please. This fucking idiot, off duty no less, why is he carrying a gun around and go shooting anyone or anything??? Maybe they should just turn around and shoot him give him a taste of his own medicine…Its only fair…

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    July 12, 2013 4:03 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You have a bankrupt country and is showing signs of a authoritarianism govt the cops over there are plainly fund raisers for the various state govts.These dogs just happen to be in the way of collecting your wallets from you all….

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    July 12, 2013 7:41 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    My son is a police officier. …I have the utmost respect for law enforcement BUT I also have 3 boxers, 2 of which I got through rescues. Being a police officier does not give a person the right to NEEDLESSLY kill any animal without justification. This has to stop! Dogs don’t have a voice. ….backoff and figure out what is going on…..don’t just shoot – off duty or on!

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    July 15, 2013 2:00 amPosted 1 year ago
    James

    OK not a bad article save for ONE STATEMENT:

    “Or what about firing a shot into the sky, which might be loud enough to frighten the dog off?”

    Maybe you dont understand physics, so heres a simple old adage for you

    What goes up, must come down. Bullets fired into the sky come down somewhere. Firing into the sky isnt some magic way to get rid of bullets. they still go somewhere. people have been killed this way. Perhaps firing into the GROUND would be a better choice here…..

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    July 15, 2013 9:22 amPosted 1 year ago
    jcalex47

    These type police are all over America these day`s.They are becoming the most disgusting people in America,and they are trained to be that way,and they volunteer for the training to boot.

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    July 23, 2013 9:57 amPosted 1 year ago
    GreatDaneMan

    Sad about the dogs getting killed, but not suprising.
    Police have a duty, dogs have a duty, it is not suprising that when all the untied ends are left loose, someone gets hurt.
    When the police show up to your door, you remember to tell them the essential info before they enter.
    My family have owned 5 great danes and three jack russel terriers in the last twenty years, it is my responsibility to control my animals. As an owner, we (SHOULD) know what is likely to set our animal off, what will keep them calm, and where to put them to keep them out of trouble.
    It is sad about the animals, but remember that just like a dog that may freak out at loud noise or stranger, so can the police react when inspecting a foreign place, and have a unfamiliar animal accost them.

    This is not a defence of either party, as there are no excuses, what is done is done. Respect your animal, teach them the proper protocol and do what you can to perform justly.
    Not every person is apt to control dogs, it is the police’s job to control people, not their pets. Training is a great idea, but don’t expect everything to be picture perfect 100% of the time. And there will sometimes be a human who makes a terrible mistake.
    Still, I ask honestly and compel readers to not HATE people they have never met, especially people who take bullets to protect civillians on a daily basis. And remember our dogs do not hate, they love and protect in every bit the same intensity.

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    August 4, 2013 1:15 pmPosted 1 year ago
    doridori

    I have a CWP to protect myself from Zimmerman types and my ANIMALS from cowardly cops.

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    August 5, 2013 4:38 pmPosted 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If I had, had a gun 2 days ago, I would have shot 2 PIT BULLS AND ANOTHER DOG. A NEIGHBOR WAS WALKING HER YORKY, AND ALL 3 TRIED THEIR DAMNEDEST TO ATTACK HER AND HER DOG. SHE HELD THE POOR THING HIGH OVER HER HEAD, TO PROTECT IT. THEY WERE JUMPING ALL OVER HER TRY,TO GET TO THAT LITTLE DOG TO KILL IT. MY HUSBAND AND I RAN OUT THERE, TO TRY AND HELP. THEY HAD NO LEASHES, WHICH IS OUR LAW. EVEN THE OWNER, COULD NOT CONTROL THOSE DOGS. I WOULD SHOOT THEM DEAD IN A HEARTBEAT, WITHOUT HESITATION. ANY DAY A DOG-DOGS, DON’T STOP IMMEDIATELY WHEN TOLD TO BY THEIR OWNER, THAT IS WHEN YOU SHOOT……TO…..KILL….. BEFORE THEY TEAR YOU UP……..

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    December 3, 2013 9:18 pmPosted 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    If any person law enforcement or not entered my home and shot my non aggressive dog . I would find out who they are and kill a member of there family like they just did to mine. I wouldn’t think twice about it.

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    December 3, 2013 11:56 pmPosted 10 months ago
    Flynn Taggart

    Not that I am insensitive to the death of beloved pets, but the writer of the article should review it more thoroughly before posting it on facebook, especially when he puts 2 massive contradictions in his article

    Common Sense #1

    #2
    And shooting a gun into the sky within a city? Did we forget basic gravity, the ballistic nature and destructive power of ammunition? Or are we so torn up looking for ways to avoid it that we would put the possibility of manslaughter in the mix just to avoid killing the animals? What ever that round hits on its way back down, will take far more damage than it would have been shot directly.

    I could have sworn, no I remember it clearly, Kindergarten, simple things like gravity are taught there.

    I’ve seen cases where a pistol round was fired into the sky, come back down, and obliterate someones head beyond recognition, it is far more common than you think with civilians popping shots off for fun in their back yard in the city.. Ofcourse they obviously dropped out of kindergarten and went straight to GED at the age of 18 in most cases im sure

    Moving onto common sense, well, it would have it that most of the people screaming kill all cops are natural criminals, and are probably the ones who should be put down, as they are the ones who do the world the most harm, not the dog killing cop

    That level of irrational thinking will put you people into a position of wasting my tax money, where in it would be far cheaper to just invest a single bullet to your head, and since I’m not a cop, I have far less restrictions on what I can do when I perceive a threat :)

    Infact I would like to add to this discussion with all you cop haters in it, a recent post that I am just now looking at, about a police officer adopting an abused dog, huh… Wow things just got turned around because now its you people the commenters, who are the bad guy, and I definitely know those cops are saying they wish they could just simply put people like that down.

    To wrap this up, all of you need to take a step back, breath, regain some rationality, some logic, and your common sense, and open your eyes, because that is only one being, out of atleast a billion or 2 suffering in similar ways, and your going ballistic over a dog because an officer had a dumbass moment… Man this country is going to shit.. not referring to the bad cops, but to people in general.

    “God Bless” America right?

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